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Re: [DIY] Plank over sheetrock?
Dale, actually most of the front half of the barn is already finished inside. Except for that one wall and ceiling, it's more re-doing than actual building. We want to finish up 900' to become part of our home; the "great room" which includes the kitchen, plus turning the "foyer" into a master bedroom/bath and a smaller room into my office. We'll still have the 1000' upstairs, but the 1450' downstairs means I don't have to use the stairs - and it's all very open. The contractor has included sealing all cracks etc. We're meeting with him Sunday afternoon to go through all the estimates. He does a lot of work around here, and we've used him before - a little more "good old boy" than I'd like but very nice and does good work. If we can get this first stage going, much of the completion we (the Royal We :) can do. In fact, we don't want someone to come in and just do everything, since we have lots of antiques still in storage and want to incorporate some of those into the room. It all requires thinking outside the box, and seeing it as a home, rather than a barn. But, as you say, we don't want to rush through it and regret it later. And one of these guys have redone a barn before so I'm trying to get all the info I can before we actually start work. Right now, my husband is having to move all the items we had unpacked and set up for refinishing furniture etc — back to the stall area so the guys can get started.
Actually, once they got the problems with the hot water recirculator cleared up, it works fine and I'm very glad we have. We were not taken to the cleaners :) We had some very extensive work done, most of it was outside the usual plumbing items, everything had to get upstairs and make a very long run. Once everything was working properly we've had no more problems. I did have to get a little pushy to get them back every time but the recirculator was a small part of the overall job — and I'll have to admit I'm still having trouble getting used to all the new federal regulations and how they affect new appliances. I'm almost afraid to buy anything else :) Rather than buying a new dishwasher for downstairs, we'll be moving this one down so will be interesting to see how our hot water works right next to the source. The recirculator is for the upstairs only.
But thanks for being concerned about us, LOL. It's been harder than I anticipated trying to think in terms of house instead of barn and then negotiate work. The HVAC man is coming tomorrow - had friends here yesterday and they had never heard of a split heat pump - or ductless systems. They are pretty sophisticated, not country bumpkins so will see what the contractor recommends. I could almost write a book with all my Q&A's from the list, :) You're all invited to the open house!
On Mar 20, 2016, at 6:33 PM, Dale Schoepflin dalu@hbcomm.net [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Jan, there are several points I think are of paramount importance. Number one, make sure any and all exterior cracks and joints are batted and sealed or you will eventually have moisture invading your walls with all of the nightmare scenarios this might imply, mold rot and like. Blown in insulation will eventually settle leaving gaps at the top. If there are cross boards or fire breaks as some call them these will stop the insulation from filling the space. They do usually drill holes either on the inside or the outside and these must be thoroughly sealed to avoid moisture, wind driven rain will go through any crack and you do have such weather in Missouri. I'm beginning to wonder if your contractor might not be suffering from the "grey haired profit margin syndrome" and be taking advantage of your trusting nature. From the pictures I have seen, your barn home is not what I would consider weather ready to have the interior finished. Pardon me if I happen to be a bit skeptical, but in my not so humble opinion you have already been taken to the cleaners with your hot water problems, and I don't want to see you have nothing but regrets down the road when you are least able to afford the expensive prospect of doing something over that should have been done right in the first place. "There is nothing but a thin line between a dream and a nightmare."
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Re: [DIY] Plank over sheetrock?
I'll check Dale, seems like last time we looked there was a difference between the 3/8 and 1/2. Maybe not as much as I thought thought. Of course I was looking at Lowes, not sure where, or what price, he gets his.
On Mar 24, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Dale Schoepflin dalu@hbcomm.net [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Anything less than 1/2 inch sheetrock would be a waste of time and the savings would be negligible
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Strange question — I would like for the contractor to do his thing in the "living area", the electrical guy get his work all in and same with AC. But — I don't want to just go order a "set" of cabinets for the kitchen area. Not only are they expensive, but the entire area is one big room and we want to do them in a more personalized fashion. Find old cabinets with good bones, but do the finishing on them ourselves. Anyone ever heard of having the contractor install just the necessary ones - and leave the other areas free temporarily? We'll need a cabinet for the wall oven, as well as the cooktop & sink. I know they are usually installed in a run and the length is set for such, but is it really necessary? if we leave room for the sizes we want, as long as we have enough room is there really a problem? Set the necessary items in and brace the counter top for a few weeks? Our kids are coming in June and can help hunt for individual items rather than just go buy stock. His bid only includes an amount for installation, not the actual cabinets nor appliances.
Here's an image of what I'd like it to look like, although the counter won't be marble and I'm not sure we want all the cabinets white :) All the fridge/oven/pantry etc on on the side wall. Nothing but sink/DW and cabinets under the window. I can see out whatever I'm doing and decided against an island, just a big farmhouse table on wheels to be moved around as needed.
Unfortunately the procedures on my spine are not working. Trying to get everything set with an eye to the future. This wall looks to the west, nothing but pasture which is deeded as a non-build area. Might be a better word—the original owner of all this acreage -made sure a certain portion can never be built on - nor can these pieces be subdivided.
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Re: [DIY] Plank over sheetrock?
Anything less than 1/2 inch sheetrock would be a waste of time and the savings would be negligible
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Thanks Terry, we have no codes here - but I don't want it to burn down either. The electrical contractor has been out and the H/A guy will be here tomorrow afternoon. Then, if everything works out, we'll meet with the contractor Sunday afternoon for a sit-down and explanation of his estimates. I have a feeling he just went down a checklist — without actually working it out.
This one wall is 24' long 10' high so if we use sheetrock under the panelling I'd use less than 1/2" — and pretty sure we can do the shiplap ourselves. We will have him finish up the ceiling and it may need 1/2", taped and painted. He may also have included some areas we don't want sheetrock - plus a small room that we can easily do ourselves. Or maybe he thinks we have a money tree growing out back, LOL. WRONG!
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Re: [DIY] Plank over sheetrock?
Thanks Terry, we have no codes here - but I don't want it to burn down either. The electrical contractor has been out and the H/A guy will be here tomorrow afternoon. Then, if everything works out, we'll meet with the contractor Sunday afternoon for a sit-down and explanation of his estimates. I have a feeling he just went down a checklist — without actually working it out.
This one wall is 24' long 10' high so if we use sheetrock under the panelling I'd use less than 1/2" — and pretty sure we can do the shiplap ourselves. We will have him finish up the ceiling and it may need 1/2", taped and painted. He may also have included some areas we don't want sheetrock - plus a small room that we can easily do ourselves. Or maybe he thinks we have a money tree growing out back, LOL. WRONG!
On Mar 24, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Terry THenne1713@aol.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
(My thought from commercial construction experience) is that you would want the sheetrock for fire protection of the structure; (may) even be required by codes, even residential. Your pricing looks high (without discussing square footage), but I maybe out of date.... old fart that still recalls $0.10 Krystals and kerosene and $0.27/ gal gasoline, LOL... but still 15-20yrs out from pricing...
The shiplap/ veneer can be installed w/ construction adhesive.
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