My well has a submersible 240V 1 1/2 HP pump about 280 feet down in the hole. Can anyone tell me how big a generator I'd need to run it? Thanks, Ed
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Dale in the Flatlands.wired wrote:
I think I've found the cause of the problem. In the photo you can see one
> of the crimp (or rubber or what have you) connections has either been
> chewed or more likely has melted and cracked. The wire is exposed as the
> covering or sheathing has been pulled away.
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That is 100% the problem and needs immediate attention.
It is without a doubt the power company's responsibility.
It is without a doubt NOT something you should mess with
unless you are used to working with live wires. In most areas to mess with the service drop and ahead of the meter is actually (technically)
a crime.
--- In DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com, subprong <subprong@...> wrote:
>
> I think I've found the cause of the problem. In the photo you can see one
> of the crimp (or rubber or what have you) connections has either been
> chewed or more likely has melted and cracked. The wire is exposed as the
> covering or sheathing has been pulled away. There were some wax leaf
> lagustra type branches and even some vines near the lines (I have to trim
> those back at least 3 times a year). I trimmed them earlier. I haven't
> noticed any flickering lights this evening. I'm going to assume that a
> branch or vine or leaf had been coming into contact with that exposed
> portion causing the flickering (perhaps when a slight gust of wind blew it
> into it).
>
> Could that be the cause of the flickering?
> Is there a way for me to replace, repair or retape that myself?
> What will happen if that area gets rained on? We're expecting rain.
> Any idea if this would the responsibility of the electric company or
> property owner? The reason I ask is that if you call them and they come
> out and discover that it's not on their side then they charge you $50 for
> their trip and they won't touch it. The electric company operator didn't
> seem sure if it was or not. I'm pretty sure they've repaired this before
> but I'm not in the mood for a change of heart and a $50 bill. With that
> said I'm not in the mood for a disaster either.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DoIt_Yourself/photos/album/283632268/pic/504090673/view
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DoIt_Yourself/photos/album/283632268/pic/376137778/view
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Dale S <dalu@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > *The connections you are talking about are the normal splices found on
> > all entrance drops. The are normally wrapped with a layer of raw rubber
> > tape and then covered with electrical tape. The tape serves to hold the
> > rubber until natural heat from the sun causes the raw rubbed to mold to the
> > connector. The connector may be either a heavy crimp or compression type
> > or a split bolt which is sometimes called a gurney in the trades.
> > *
> >
> > *Dale in the Flatlands.*
> >
> > subprong wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dale (anyone), do me a favor and look at this video..
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOQc1L94mI
> >
> > At about 25 seconds into the video, you see a couple of wires that come
> > out of the metal pole housing and you can see they are joined via an
> > adapter or something because the tape wrapped portion is thicker than the
> > wires. The guy in the video is talking about something else....but I'm
> > wanting to know what those two connections are called at about the 25
> > second mark. I think one of my connections have tape or insulation or
> > something that has come undone. So I'm trying to figure out what it's
> > called to further research. Thanks.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Dale S <dalu@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Depends on locality and where the meter is located. Home owner
> >> responsibility usually begins at the meter. If the meter is on a pole
> >> the power company is not responsible for the drop from the meter to thehouse.
> >>
> >> Dale in the Flatlands.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> subprong wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Who is responsible for the line drop connection at a property; the
> >> energy company or property owner?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
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The connections you are talking about are the normal splices found on all entrance drops. The are normally wrapped with a layer of raw rubber tape and then covered with electrical tape. The tape serves to hold the rubber until natural heat from the sun causes the raw rubbed to mold to the connector. The connector may be either a heavy crimp or compression type or a split bolt which is sometimes called a gurney in the trades.
Dale in the Flatlands.subprong wrote:
Dale (anyone), do me a favor and look at this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOQc1L94mI
At about 25 seconds into the video, you see a couple of wires that come out of the metal pole housing and you can see they are joined via an adapter or something because the tape wrapped portion is thicker than the wires. The guy in the video is talking about something else....but I'm wanting to know what those two connections are called at about the 25 second mark. I think one of my connections have tape or insulation or something that has come undone. So I'm trying to figure out what it's called to further research. Thanks.
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Dale S <dalu@hbcomm.net> wrote:
Who is responsible for the line drop connection at a property; the energy company or property owner?
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I think I've found the cause of the problem. In the photo you can see one of the crimp (or rubber or what have you) connections has either been chewed or more likely has melted and cracked. The wire is exposed as the covering or sheathing has been pulled away. There were some wax leaf lagustra type branches and even some vines near the lines (I have to trim those back at least 3 times a year). I trimmed them earlier. I haven't noticed any flickering lights this evening. I'm going to assume that a branch or vine or leaf had been coming into contact with that exposed portion causing the flickering (perhaps when a slight gust of wind blew it into it).
Could that be the cause of the flickering?
Is there a way for me to replace, repair or retape that myself?
What will happen if that area gets rained on? We're expecting rain.
Any idea if this would the responsibility of the electric company or property owner? The reason I ask is that if you call them and they come out and discover that it's not on their side then they charge you $50 for their trip and they won't touch it. The electric company operator didn't seem sure if it was or not. I'm pretty sure they've repaired this before but I'm not in the mood for a change of heart and a $50 bill. With that said I'm not in the mood for a disaster either.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DoIt_Yourself/photos/album/283632268/pic/504090673/view
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DoIt_Yourself/photos/album/283632268/pic/376137778/view
The connections you are talking about are the normal splices found on all entrance drops. The are normally wrapped with a layer of raw rubber tape and then covered with electrical tape. The tape serves to hold the rubber until natural heat from the sun causes the raw rubbed to mold to the connector. The connector may be either a heavy crimp or compression type or a split bolt which is sometimes called a gurney in the trades.
Dale in the Flatlands.subprong wrote:
Dale (anyone), do me a favor and look at this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOQc1L94mI
At about 25 seconds into the video, you see a couple of wires that come out of the metal pole housing and you can see they are joined via an adapter or something because the tape wrapped portion is thicker than the wires. The guy in the video is talking about something else....but I'm wanting to know what those two connections are called at about the 25 second mark. I think one of my connections have tape or insulation or something that has come undone. So I'm trying to figure out what it's called to further research. Thanks.
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Dale S <dalu@hbcomm.net> wrote:
Depends on locality and where the meter is located. Home owner responsibility usually begins at the meter. If the meter is on a pole the power company is not responsible for the drop from the meter to the house.
Dale in the Flatlands.subprong wrote:
Who is responsible for the line drop connection at a property; the energy company or property owner?
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On the printing press I have run for the past few decades, at one time I had a similar experience. I hadn't figured it out myself and had a printing electrical technician come out and try to figure it out. He spent the whole day trying to figure it out. I learned something from that day. Start looking at the source for brownouts.
Turned out all the trouble came from a loose wire lug on the main breaker for that press, it was a rather large breaker, a 3 phase, 240V at 100 amps. I didn't have the courage at the time to attempt to try to tighten the lugs myself. It took an allen wrench, there was no way I was putting my hands on a bare allen wrench on a major circuit like that, even if I knew it wasn't live. But after the lugs were tightened the brownouts stopped. The technician started at all the smaller circuits in the press, it wasn't until he worked his way to the breaker that he found the problem.
The symptoms were when I turned on a large pump that had a draw of around 50 amps various parts of the press would shut down. It didn't do it all the time. Problems like that can be mystifying if you haven't ever seen them before.
Just sharing my experience.
Steve
Various lights (on different breakers) are flickering. This happens randomly when nothing major is in use nor is anything major kicking on (like an AC or fridge) and I've also noticed happens sometimes if I use something (for instance a tool I used this evening initially sounded quite drained and sputtery as the lights flickered). I believe it's also happening on an entire different line for someone else but not positive. The flickering is usually pretty speedy, flicking a couple/few times rather fast....not sure if it's my imagination but it does vary from being dim to brighter at points.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:40 AM, wired <wiredformen@yahoo.com> wrote:
When this happens do you notice some get brighter while others get dimmer? That would be a neutral connection issue either on the street or within your service panel/meter. Are they on different circuits (breakers)? I assumed you mean more than one fixture flickering.
If only 1 circuit flickers, it's in that circuit. Likely the wiring goes from plug to plug/switch and could be a loose connection at any of the plugs on the circuit.
--- In DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com, subprong <subprong@...> wrote:
>
> I've noticed flickering lights indoors the last couple of days that are
> fairly frequent. Electrically speaking nothing has changed recently. The
> only thing of minor note would be that I changed out an outdoor security
> light bulb a week or so ago on a dusk til dawn sensored light. Is there a
> chance that this bulb is working properly (lit) but be somehow defective
> that it would trigger problems on other circuits (pulling current from
> other circuits)?
>
> This light flickering happened a few years ago. The electric company came
> out and did something at the pole which fixed things up at the time. After
> he left I found a 3" long section of tightly bundled wires that had been
> cut and I presume replaced or adapted. It was a bunch of colored wires
> within a black casing. Probably about 3/4"-1" in diameter.
>
> Basically trying to figure out if this is something on my end or their end
> again.
>
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Dale in the Flatlands.subprong wrote:
Dale (anyone), do me a favor and look at this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOQc1L94mI
At about 25 seconds into the video, you see a couple of wires that come out of the metal pole housing and you can see they are joined via an adapter or something because the tape wrapped portion is thicker than the wires. The guy in the video is talking about something else....but I'm wanting to know what those two connections are called at about the 25 second mark. I think one of my connections have tape or insulation or something that has come undone. So I'm trying to figure out what it's called to further research. Thanks.
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Dale S <dalu@hbcomm.net> wrote:
Depends on locality and where the meter is located. Home owner responsibility usually begins at the meter. If the meter is on a pole the power company is not responsible for the drop from the meter to the house.
Dale in the Flatlands.subprong wrote:
Who is responsible for the line drop connection at a property; the energy company or property owner?
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I think but not positive is that the problem is a "crimp connection" as seen in this video (should start at the 2 minute mark)....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=x_mDXySfEcY#t=120s
I think that crimp connection is the part I saw on the ground years ago. I'm probably misremembering what I saw within the shielding (not colored wires). I'm pretty sure I kept it and will look out for it.
Dale (anyone), do me a favor and look at this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOQc1L94mI
At about 25 seconds into the video, you see a couple of wires that come out of the metal pole housing and you can see they are joined via an adapter or something because the tape wrapped portion is thicker than the wires. The guy in the video is talking about something else....but I'm wanting to know what those two connections are called at about the 25 second mark. I think one of my connections have tape or insulation or something that has come undone. So I'm trying to figure out what it's called to further research. Thanks.
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Dale S <dalu@hbcomm.net> wrote:
Depends on locality and where the meter is located. Home owner responsibility usually begins at the meter. If the meter is on a pole the power company is not responsible for the drop from the meter to the house.Dale in the Flatlands.subprong wrote:
Who is responsible for the line drop connection at a property; the energy company or property owner?
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Dale (anyone), do me a favor and look at this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOQc1L94mI
At about 25 seconds into the video, you see a couple of wires that come out of the metal pole housing and you can see they are joined via an adapter or something because the tape wrapped portion is thicker than the wires. The guy in the video is talking about something else....but I'm wanting to know what those two connections are called at about the 25 second mark. I think one of my connections have tape or insulation or something that has come undone. So I'm trying to figure out what it's called to further research. Thanks.
Depends on locality and where the meter is located. Home owner responsibility usually begins at the meter. If the meter is on a pole the power company is not responsible for the drop from the meter to the house.Dale in the Flatlands.subprong wrote:
Who is responsible for the line drop connection at a property; the energy company or property owner?
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Dale in the Flatlands.subprong wrote:
Who is responsible for the line drop connection at a property; the energy company or property owner?
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