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31 July 2012

Re: [DIY] Woodworkers transfer tool - follow-up

 

I feel pretty good this morning!  In the middle of the night I remembered I had such a tool in a set I bought years ago; it has interchangeable tips, one being the round transfer tip. Takes time and pressure to transfer the ink, so I tried my iron as Bill suggested.  After a little experimenting I used the iron to preheat an area - immediately applied direct pressure with the tool - and used the iron on it again.  Learned if you don't remove the paper as soon as the ink transfers the paper begins to absorb it again.  Overall it worked like a charm and the ink is permanent.  No graphite, no medium, no mess.  This method only works with a toner copy as it's the toner that transfers.  My laser copier worked fine, the ink just isn't as dark.


The tool is made for woodworkers and the result is a more accurate pattern than graphite and doesn't smudge.  My tool heats to 750 F which is about the same as a woodburning tool, and the new ones come with a variable heat button.  You can transfer graphics to wood also, not just a pattern.



>>On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Bill Chmelik wrote:

How about an old iron?

 



 


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RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl Fencing... Gate Post

 


From the directions, the vinyl post that holds the
gate is filled with concrete and has a piece of rebar
running down through it.

That is what I needed to know. thank you!

------- Original Message -------
From : Kathryn Berck[mailto:ksrberck@prodigy.net]
Sent : 7/31/2012 7:15:17 AM
To : DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl Fencing... Gate Post

I checked with my neighbor, who has some vinyl
fencing for his
llamas.  Most of his gates are like mine: 
Priefert 16-gauge tubing
in most places, except for one white vinyl gate
nearest the house
where he wanted it to look nicer.  He says that
gate kits are
available for vinyl fencing, and usually end up
being most practical
since they include all the parts needed.  He
suggested this as a
useful link to explain how vinyl gates are
usually installed for
horses:

http://www.gardnerfence.com/images/Vinyl_Horse_Gate_Installatio3.pdf

He put up one of those one-post signs in front of
his place,
mounting it on a 4X4 wooden post that he set deep
in concrete and
then just slipped a white vinyl sleeve over the
wood.  It looks
nice.

There appear to be a lot of You Tube videos on
how to install vinyl
fences and gates.  There must also be folks in
this group who know a
lot more about handling serious vinyl gating than
I do, but I hope
this helps.

(My gates are all 16-gauge tubing, like this one. 

http://www.priefert.com/ProductDetails/gates-264/bull-gates-453/rg216
.  I gave up on the lighter ones because the
horses kept squabbling
over them - even though they were as tall as the
fence, there was no
hot wire - and finally bending them enough to
knock them off their
hinges, jump or climb over, and chase each other
around.  My posts
are all round, heavy wood with the hooks screwed
in and the gate
clamps setting the gate itself as high as I want
it.  I changed out
one of these by myself, although it's easier with
two people, of
course.  Finally, at the gate they fought over
most often, I added
an electric "spring gate" at the top.)

On 7/31/2012 5:57 AM,
snaffles@essex1.com wrote:

 




Thank you for the information and your
suggestions.

I have several types of fence... hot
wire in the

pasture, corral panels for some
fencing, cattle

panels for others and a 3 board fence
near our road

and driveway. The board fencing has a
strand of hot

wire on the inside.

I still need to know how most horse
people set up the

gate posts. In my opinion a gate is
heavy. I wouldnt

want to see it break or crack a vinyl
post, or have

damage done if a horse pushes on it
when hanging his

head over for socialization.

Joyce

------- Original Message -------

>From : Kathryn
Berck[mailto:ksrberck@prodigy.net]

Sent : 7/30/2012 7:33:23 PM

To : DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com

Cc :

Subject : RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl
Fencing... Gate Post

It won't take anything like a whole day
for a

horse to either

destroy or kill itself on just about
any kind of

fence if it sets

its mind to it, or just by accident. 
Two minutes

is plenty of time,

IME.

You should be able to use your vinyl
fencing,

though, unless it's

too fragile.  If it's less than 54" high

installed, for example, you

can run a line of electric tape above
the highest

rail.

If you haven't had to fence horses
before, this

is an extremely

thorough and accurate primer; it
includes a lot

about layout, about

gates and posts, etc.  It taught me a
lot when I

first started out

taking care of my own horses:

http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/ub037.pdf

This is a nice link, too, with a lot of
sound

info on different

types of fences:

http://www.fivestarranch.com/articles/horse-fence.html

Here is the stable in Virginia where I
boarded

one of my horses. 

The photos aren't great, but you can
see that the

fences were wood,

almost five feet tall, with a line of
electric

wire around the

inside near the top to keep the horses from

leaning and pushing. 

http://www.criswoodfarmandtackshop.com/

This is the standard in Virginia, so when I

brought the horses to

Texas, where the standard is wire, I
worried

about them simply not

seeing the fence.  That's why I had the
tape

added at the top, and

they saw it right away.  When two
geldings who

keep forgetting they

aren't stallions any more started
quarreling over

the tape, I just

ran power to the tape.  When they then
shifted to

nipping at each

other between the lower lines of wire,
I had two

lines of electric

wire run on one side at about 18" and
48", two

feet inside the

fence.  Now they are, very reluctantly,
more polite.

Most important, please courteously
ignore anyone

who tells you that

barbed wire is perfectly safe for smart
horses. 

There are no smart

horses.

Hope this helps.

On 7/30/2012 6:58 PM,

snaffles@essex1.com
wrote:

 

I should have added that the grass lots

that will be

enclosed by vinyl are a temporary

pasture for the

horses. They would only be in there

during the day...

and only a day at a time.

Tell me more about the fences in

Virginia. The gate

posts are sturdier? Are they wooden?

I was very lucky and picked up this

vinyl fencing

from a lady who moved and pulled up all

her vinyl

Fence. None of it was set in concrete.

------- Original Message -------

>From : Kathryn

Berck[mailto:ksrberck@prodigy.net]

Sent : 7/30/2012 11:36:37 AM

To : DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com

Cc :

Subject : RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl

Fencing... Gate Post

Sorry if this rambles a bit -

Horses not only push on fencing, they

also love

to scratch on fence

posts and gate posts, exerting

considerable force

while doing so.

Although vinyl fencing isn't as

satisfying to

scratch against

because it's so smooth, they will still

use it in

the absence of

anything rougher.

I am lucky enough to have bought my horse

property with pastures

already laid out but with wire fencing;

swapped

out that barbed

wire, of course, for something less

quickly fatal

to suicidal

animals; would have loved to have put

up wood or

pipe, but couldn't

afford it. My mesh fences are supported by

telephone-pole thick

wooden posts set at least four feet

into the

ground every 30 feet or

so, with simple T posts between and a

string of

hot tape all around

the top to discourage leaning and

nipping at one

another, and to

make the boundaries more visible. The

gate posts

are either similar

no-fooling-serious wooden posts, or are

heavy

pipe set it concrete,

also running about four feet deep. If I

were to

be able to use

vinyl i would still follow the examples

I saw in

Virginia, where

vinyl fencing can be seen on very wealthy

properties, the corners

and the gate posts are far beefier than the

running fence. If I

remember right, they are normally iron

set very

deep in concrete,

then disguised with the pretty stuff.

On 7/30/2012 6:04 AM, snafflesnshelties

wrote:

We will be putting up our vinyl fence

this fall. I hope.

There will be 3 pipe gates that measure

5 and 6 feet.

The areas of this fence will hold

horses. Horses often

push against a fence when watching

something.

What is the best method for setting the

gate posts in this

situation?

Thank you

Joyce

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Posted by at 21:21 0 comments

[DIY] Re: Old garage pad and new patio

 



Hi Jack,

I joined this group for concrete work advice.

Be very careful with this project not to underestimate how important the foundation is. This is not a time to re-invent the wheel. There are reasons for the three inches of rubble (gravel) and three inches of sand. I use four inches of rubble, but in Minnesota, there is a huge freeze/thaw cycle. I have done lots of this kind of work with my Dad, and it doesn't take long before you are moving tons (literally) of material. You move tons of earth, tons of gravel, and tons of sand. It is heavy and laborious (and fun). You will be much happier in the long run if you do it right rather than do it over. Doing it over to get it right will involve moving tons of material out of the way (with no good place to put it for temporary storage), and moving tons of material back in to place. I know this is NOT what you want to hear, but there is no short cut. My Dad and I had a Saturday afternoon at the landscape supply outlet where I was standing in the showroom crying, because the salesman was explaining what to do, and my Dad was refusing to get the supplies to do it. My Dad's theory has always been "good enough". Well...not so. We did it his way, and then within a year we re-did it. Not fun. And foolish.

Also, topping a cracked concrete pad with more concrete intuitively sounds like a recipe for disater to me. All of that beautiful new concrete sitting on top of a layer of old shifting concrete ... it seems it would be better to remove the bad stuff, raise the area to the desired height by laying in the proper foundation, then pouring your new pad. You will want to kick yourself if you spend a lot of time and money on these projects only to have to rip them out. The money spent doing it half way could be better applied to doing it right the first time.

Isn't there something in a famous book about building your house on shifting sand? Be sure to build YOUR house on a rock.

Christine (Buzz Kill) - Mpls

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> I moved into a new,for me,house. First summer there so LOTS to do. There is a
> concret pad that looks to me that was used for a garage at one tine. Somewhat
> broken/cracked. I would like to add concrete on top of it,it needs to be higher
> anyway. Does anyone for Sure know how much I need to add to have it stick and
> not crack etc? Is it 3ins? Did I say that I am Very POOR? I am!
> Also would like to put a patio in out back door. Any ideas as to what to use?
> Have thought of most and would rather Not go to expense of gravel(3 ins?),vaper
> barrier,sand(3 ins) then top whatever. What is the Least cost? Can I just use
> sand? Is there any sealer for sand? I was told cats would use sand as a
> liter.Once saw and walked on a pro done river rock sindwalk and patio, It was
> not only Beautiful but nice on the feet. Can I do that?I am very handy etc and
> have Lots of time when not on another project,idea at home.
> Hope some one can help me out With I have done that info!Thanks much!
> Jack O
>

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Posted by at 20:19 0 comments

Re: [DIY] Vinyl Fencing... Gate Post

 

I checked with my neighbor, who has some vinyl fencing for his llamas.  Most of his gates are like mine:  Priefert 16-gauge tubing in most places, except for one white vinyl gate nearest the house where he wanted it to look nicer.  He says that gate kits are available for vinyl fencing, and usually end up being most practical since they include all the parts needed.  He suggested this as a useful link to explain how vinyl gates are usually installed for horses:
http://www.gardnerfence.com/images/Vinyl_Horse_Gate_Installatio3.pdf

He put up one of those one-post signs in front of his place, mounting it on a 4X4 wooden post that he set deep in concrete and then just slipped a white vinyl sleeve over the wood.  It looks nice.

There appear to be a lot of You Tube videos on how to install vinyl fences and gates.  There must also be folks in this group who know a lot more about handling serious vinyl gating than I do, but I hope this helps.


(My gates are all 16-gauge tubing, like this one.  http://www.priefert.com/ProductDetails/gates-264/bull-gates-453/rg216 .  I gave up on the lighter ones because the horses kept squabbling over them - even though they were as tall as the fence, there was no hot wire - and finally bending them enough to knock them off their hinges, jump or climb over, and chase each other around.  My posts are all round, heavy wood with the hooks screwed in and the gate clamps setting the gate itself as high as I want it.  I changed out one of these by myself, although it's easier with two people, of course.  Finally, at the gate they fought over most often, I added an electric "spring gate" at the top.)



On 7/31/2012 5:57 AM, snaffles@essex1.com wrote:
 


Thank you for the information and your suggestions.

I have several types of fence... hot wire in the
pasture, corral panels for some fencing, cattle
panels for others and a 3 board fence near our road
and driveway. The board fencing has a strand of hot
wire on the inside.

I still need to know how most horse people set up the
gate posts. In my opinion a gate is heavy. I wouldnt
want to see it break or crack a vinyl post, or have
damage done if a horse pushes on it when hanging his
head over for socialization.

Joyce

------- Original Message -------
>From : Kathryn Berck[mailto:ksrberck@prodigy.net]
Sent : 7/30/2012 7:33:23 PM
To : DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl Fencing... Gate Post

It won't take anything like a whole day for a
horse to either
destroy or kill itself on just about any kind of
fence if it sets
its mind to it, or just by accident.  Two minutes
is plenty of time,
IME.

You should be able to use your vinyl fencing,
though, unless it's
too fragile.  If it's less than 54" high
installed, for example, you
can run a line of electric tape above the highest
rail.

If you haven't had to fence horses before, this
is an extremely
thorough and accurate primer; it includes a lot
about layout, about
gates and posts, etc.  It taught me a lot when I
first started out
taking care of my own horses:

http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/ub037.pdf

This is a nice link, too, with a lot of sound
info on different
types of fences:

http://www.fivestarranch.com/articles/horse-fence.html

Here is the stable in Virginia where I boarded
one of my horses. 
The photos aren't great, but you can see that the
fences were wood,
almost five feet tall, with a line of electric
wire around the
inside near the top to keep the horses from
leaning and pushing. 

http://www.criswoodfarmandtackshop.com/

This is the standard in Virginia, so when I
brought the horses to
Texas, where the standard is wire, I worried
about them simply not
seeing the fence.  That's why I had the tape
added at the top, and
they saw it right away.  When two geldings who
keep forgetting they
aren't stallions any more started quarreling over
the tape, I just
ran power to the tape.  When they then shifted to
nipping at each
other between the lower lines of wire, I had two
lines of electric
wire run on one side at about 18" and 48", two
feet inside the
fence.  Now they are, very reluctantly, more polite.

Most important, please courteously ignore anyone
who tells you that
barbed wire is perfectly safe for smart horses. 
There are no smart
horses.

Hope this helps.

On 7/30/2012 6:58 PM,
snaffles@essex1.com wrote:

 


I should have added that the grass lots
that will be

enclosed by vinyl are a temporary
pasture for the

horses. They would only be in there
during the day...

and only a day at a time.

Tell me more about the fences in
Virginia. The gate

posts are sturdier? Are they wooden?

I was very lucky and picked up this
vinyl fencing

from a lady who moved and pulled up all
her vinyl

Fence. None of it was set in concrete.

------- Original Message -------

>From : Kathryn
Berck[mailto:ksrberck@prodigy.net]

Sent : 7/30/2012 11:36:37 AM

To : DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com

Cc :

Subject : RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl
Fencing... Gate Post

Sorry if this rambles a bit -

Horses not only push on fencing, they
also love

to scratch on fence

posts and gate posts, exerting
considerable force

while doing so.

Although vinyl fencing isn't as
satisfying to

scratch against

because it's so smooth, they will still
use it in

the absence of

anything rougher.

I am lucky enough to have bought my horse

property with pastures

already laid out but with wire fencing;
swapped

out that barbed

wire, of course, for something less
quickly fatal

to suicidal

animals; would have loved to have put
up wood or

pipe, but couldn't

afford it. My mesh fences are supported by

telephone-pole thick

wooden posts set at least four feet
into the

ground every 30 feet or

so, with simple T posts between and a
string of

hot tape all around

the top to discourage leaning and
nipping at one

another, and to

make the boundaries more visible. The
gate posts

are either similar

no-fooling-serious wooden posts, or are
heavy

pipe set it concrete,

also running about four feet deep. If I
were to

be able to use

vinyl i would still follow the examples
I saw in

Virginia, where

vinyl fencing can be seen on very wealthy

properties, the corners

and the gate posts are far beefier than the

running fence. If I

remember right, they are normally iron
set very

deep in concrete,

then disguised with the pretty stuff.


On 7/30/2012 6:04 AM, snafflesnshelties

wrote:

We will be putting up our vinyl fence

this fall. I hope.

There will be 3 pipe gates that measure

5 and 6 feet.

The areas of this fence will hold

horses. Horses often

push against a fence when watching

something.

What is the best method for setting the

gate posts in this

situation?

Thank you

Joyce


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Posted by at 20:15 0 comments

RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl Fencing... Gate Post

 


Thank you for the information and your suggestions.

I have several types of fence... hot wire in the
pasture, corral panels for some fencing, cattle
panels for others and a 3 board fence near our road
and driveway. The board fencing has a strand of hot
wire on the inside.

I still need to know how most horse people set up the
gate posts. In my opinion a gate is heavy. I wouldnt
want to see it break or crack a vinyl post, or have
damage done if a horse pushes on it when hanging his
head over for socialization.

Joyce

------- Original Message -------
From : Kathryn Berck[mailto:ksrberck@prodigy.net]
Sent : 7/30/2012 7:33:23 PM
To : DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl Fencing... Gate Post

It won't take anything like a whole day for a
horse to either
destroy or kill itself on just about any kind of
fence if it sets
its mind to it, or just by accident.  Two minutes
is plenty of time,
IME.

You should be able to use your vinyl fencing,
though, unless it's
too fragile.  If it's less than 54" high
installed, for example, you
can run a line of electric tape above the highest
rail.

If you haven't had to fence horses before, this
is an extremely
thorough and accurate primer; it includes a lot
about layout, about
gates and posts, etc.  It taught me a lot when I
first started out
taking care of my own horses:

http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/ub037.pdf

This is a nice link, too, with a lot of sound
info on different
types of fences:

http://www.fivestarranch.com/articles/horse-fence.html

Here is the stable in Virginia where I boarded
one of my horses. 
The photos aren't great, but you can see that the
fences were wood,
almost five feet tall, with a line of electric
wire around the
inside near the top to keep the horses from
leaning and pushing. 

http://www.criswoodfarmandtackshop.com/

This is the standard in Virginia, so when I
brought the horses to
Texas, where the standard is wire, I worried
about them simply not
seeing the fence.  That's why I had the tape
added at the top, and
they saw it right away.  When two geldings who
keep forgetting they
aren't stallions any more started quarreling over
the tape, I just
ran power to the tape.  When they then shifted to
nipping at each
other between the lower lines of wire, I had two
lines of electric
wire run on one side at about 18" and 48", two
feet inside the
fence.  Now they are, very reluctantly, more polite.

Most important, please courteously ignore anyone
who tells you that
barbed wire is perfectly safe for smart horses. 
There are no smart
horses.

Hope this helps.

On 7/30/2012 6:58 PM,
snaffles@essex1.com wrote:

 


I should have added that the grass lots
that will be

enclosed by vinyl are a temporary
pasture for the

horses. They would only be in there
during the day...

and only a day at a time.

Tell me more about the fences in
Virginia. The gate

posts are sturdier? Are they wooden?

I was very lucky and picked up this
vinyl fencing

from a lady who moved and pulled up all
her vinyl

Fence. None of it was set in concrete.

------- Original Message -------

>From : Kathryn
Berck[mailto:ksrberck@prodigy.net]

Sent : 7/30/2012 11:36:37 AM

To : DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com

Cc :

Subject : RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl
Fencing... Gate Post

Sorry if this rambles a bit -

Horses not only push on fencing, they
also love

to scratch on fence

posts and gate posts, exerting
considerable force

while doing so.

Although vinyl fencing isn't as
satisfying to

scratch against

because it's so smooth, they will still
use it in

the absence of

anything rougher.

I am lucky enough to have bought my horse

property with pastures

already laid out but with wire fencing;
swapped

out that barbed

wire, of course, for something less
quickly fatal

to suicidal

animals; would have loved to have put
up wood or

pipe, but couldn't

afford it. My mesh fences are supported by

telephone-pole thick

wooden posts set at least four feet
into the

ground every 30 feet or

so, with simple T posts between and a
string of

hot tape all around

the top to discourage leaning and
nipping at one

another, and to

make the boundaries more visible. The
gate posts

are either similar

no-fooling-serious wooden posts, or are
heavy

pipe set it concrete,

also running about four feet deep. If I
were to

be able to use

vinyl i would still follow the examples
I saw in

Virginia, where

vinyl fencing can be seen on very wealthy

properties, the corners

and the gate posts are far beefier than the

running fence. If I

remember right, they are normally iron
set very

deep in concrete,

then disguised with the pretty stuff.


On 7/30/2012 6:04 AM, snafflesnshelties

wrote:

We will be putting up our vinyl fence

this fall. I hope.

There will be 3 pipe gates that measure

5 and 6 feet.

The areas of this fence will hold

horses. Horses often

push against a fence when watching

something.

What is the best method for setting the

gate posts in this

situation?

Thank you

Joyce

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Posted by at 18:57 0 comments

Re: [DIY] Woodworkers transfer tool

 

Hmm, thinking outside the box.  I suspect because of it's size the iron wouldn't be able to burnish the surface like the hot tool - but you know what I'm going to be doing in the morning :)  It's sure worth a try.


On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Bill Chmelik wrote:

 

How about an old iron?

 

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Posted by at 11:40 0 comments

Re: [DIY] Vinyl Fencing... Gate Post

 


It won't take anything like a whole day for a horse to either destroy or kill itself on just about any kind of fence if it sets its mind to it, or just by accident.  Two minutes is plenty of time, IME.

You should be able to use your vinyl fencing, though, unless it's too fragile.  If it's less than 54" high installed, for example, you can run a line of electric tape above the highest rail.

If you haven't had to fence horses before, this is an extremely thorough and accurate primer; it includes a lot about layout, about gates and posts, etc.  It taught me a lot when I first started out taking care of my own horses:
http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/ub037.pdf

This is a nice link, too, with a lot of sound info on different types of fences:
http://www.fivestarranch.com/articles/horse-fence.html

Here is the stable in Virginia where I boarded one of my horses.  The photos aren't great, but you can see that the fences were wood, almost five feet tall, with a line of electric wire around the inside near the top to keep the horses from leaning and pushing. 
http://www.criswoodfarmandtackshop.com/

This is the standard in Virginia, so when I brought the horses to Texas, where the standard is wire, I worried about them simply not seeing the fence.  That's why I had the tape added at the top, and they saw it right away.  When two geldings who keep forgetting they aren't stallions any more started quarreling over the tape, I just ran power to the tape.  When they then shifted to nipping at each other between the lower lines of wire, I had two lines of electric wire run on one side at about 18" and 48", two feet inside the fence.  Now they are, very reluctantly, more polite.

Most important, please courteously ignore anyone who tells you that barbed wire is perfectly safe for smart horses.  There are no smart horses.

Hope this helps.


On 7/30/2012 6:58 PM, snaffles@essex1.com wrote:
 

I should have added that the grass lots that will be
enclosed by vinyl are a temporary pasture for the
horses. They would only be in there during the day...
and only a day at a time.

Tell me more about the fences in Virginia. The gate
posts are sturdier? Are they wooden?

I was very lucky and picked up this vinyl fencing
from a lady who moved and pulled up all her vinyl
Fence. None of it was set in concrete.

------- Original Message -------
>From : Kathryn Berck[mailto:ksrberck@prodigy.net]
Sent : 7/30/2012 11:36:37 AM
To : DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl Fencing... Gate Post

Sorry if this rambles a bit -

Horses not only push on fencing, they also love
to scratch on fence
posts and gate posts, exerting considerable force
while doing so.
Although vinyl fencing isn't as satisfying to
scratch against
because it's so smooth, they will still use it in
the absence of
anything rougher.

I am lucky enough to have bought my horse
property with pastures
already laid out but with wire fencing; swapped
out that barbed
wire, of course, for something less quickly fatal
to suicidal
animals; would have loved to have put up wood or
pipe, but couldn't
afford it. My mesh fences are supported by
telephone-pole thick
wooden posts set at least four feet into the
ground every 30 feet or
so, with simple T posts between and a string of
hot tape all around
the top to discourage leaning and nipping at one
another, and to
make the boundaries more visible. The gate posts
are either similar
no-fooling-serious wooden posts, or are heavy
pipe set it concrete,
also running about four feet deep. If I were to
be able to use
vinyl i would still follow the examples I saw in
Virginia, where
vinyl fencing can be seen on very wealthy
properties, the corners
and the gate posts are far beefier than the
running fence. If I
remember right, they are normally iron set very
deep in concrete,
then disguised with the pretty stuff.

On 7/30/2012 6:04 AM, snafflesnshelties
wrote:

We will be putting up our vinyl fence
this fall. I hope.

There will be 3 pipe gates that measure
5 and 6 feet.

The areas of this fence will hold
horses. Horses often
push against a fence when watching
something.

What is the best method for setting the
gate posts in this
situation?

Thank you

Joyce


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RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl Fencing... Gate Post

 

I should have added that the grass lots that will be
enclosed by vinyl are a temporary pasture for the
horses. They would only be in there during the day...
and only a day at a time.

Tell me more about the fences in Virginia. The gate
posts are sturdier? Are they wooden?

I was very lucky and picked up this vinyl fencing
from a lady who moved and pulled up all her vinyl
Fence. None of it was set in concrete.

------- Original Message -------
From : Kathryn Berck[mailto:ksrberck@prodigy.net]
Sent : 7/30/2012 11:36:37 AM
To : DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: [DIY] Vinyl Fencing... Gate Post

Sorry if this rambles a bit -

Horses not only push on fencing, they also love
to scratch on fence
posts and gate posts, exerting considerable force
while doing so.
Although vinyl fencing isn't as satisfying to
scratch against
because it's so smooth, they will still use it in
the absence of
anything rougher.

I am lucky enough to have bought my horse
property with pastures
already laid out but with wire fencing; swapped
out that barbed
wire, of course, for something less quickly fatal
to suicidal
animals; would have loved to have put up wood or
pipe, but couldn't
afford it. My mesh fences are supported by
telephone-pole thick
wooden posts set at least four feet into the
ground every 30 feet or
so, with simple T posts between and a string of
hot tape all around
the top to discourage leaning and nipping at one
another, and to
make the boundaries more visible. The gate posts
are either similar
no-fooling-serious wooden posts, or are heavy
pipe set it concrete,
also running about four feet deep. If I were to
be able to use
vinyl i would still follow the examples I saw in
Virginia, where
vinyl fencing can be seen on very wealthy
properties, the corners
and the gate posts are far beefier than the
running fence. If I
remember right, they are normally iron set very
deep in concrete,
then disguised with the pretty stuff.

On 7/30/2012 6:04 AM, snafflesnshelties
wrote:

We will be putting up our vinyl fence
this fall. I hope.

There will be 3 pipe gates that measure
5 and 6 feet.

The areas of this fence will hold
horses. Horses often
push against a fence when watching
something.

What is the best method for setting the
gate posts in this
situation?

Thank you

Joyce

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Posted by at 07:58 0 comments

RE: [DIY] Old garage pad and new patio

 


http://radass.com/2012/06/27/dont-throw-that-old-pallet-away-35-pics/

-----Original Message-----
From: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of jack
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:58 PM
To: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DIY] Old garage pad and new patio

I moved into a new,for me,house. First summer there so LOTS to do. There is
a concret pad that looks to me that was used for a garage at one tine.
Somewhat broken/cracked. I would like to add concrete on top of it,it needs
to be higher anyway. Does anyone for Sure know how much I need to add to
have it stick and not crack etc? Is it 3ins? Did I say that I am Very POOR?
I am!
Also would like to put a patio in out back door. Any ideas as to what to
use?
Have thought of most and would rather Not go to expense of gravel(3
ins?),vaper
barrier,sand(3 ins) then top whatever. What is the Least cost? Can I just
use sand? Is there any sealer for sand? I was told cats would use sand as a
liter.Once saw and walked on a pro done river rock sindwalk and patio, It
was not only Beautiful but nice on the feet. Can I do that?I am very handy
etc and have Lots of time when not on another project,idea at home.
Hope some one can help me out With I have done that info!Thanks much!
Jack O

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RE: [DIY] Woodworkers transfer tool

 

How about an old iron?

 

From: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jan Flood
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 5:53 PM
To: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DIY] Woodworkers transfer tool

 



Thanks Dale, I have one of these and they work good for transfering lines - I want to transfer a complete image so need the flat disc end.

 

On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Dale S wrote:

 

 

 

Here is a tool I have used in the past and found very effective, plus it does not burn either the pattern nor the wood.  Rub over the transferred portion with a soft lead pencil for better visibility.

 




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