Re: [DIY] Lift Assist Hinges

 

The roof is 75lbs.  It's depth (front to back) is about 40".  The weight of the roof is uniform throughout. 

The problem with the assist hinges that I've encountered are that they are designed (in terms of installing/mounting them) for a specific amount of space (generally a 3/4" back wall are what they are designed for....mine is 2-1/4") between the assist hinge and the regular hinge.  Therefore if you want to install the hinges so that the lid/roof is at a 90 degree angle, then those requirements are needed.  Lining things up so that the assist hinge actually meets the underside of the roof, if I installed the hinge the roof angle would have been at maybe 45-60 degrees.  I did not end up installing it but was actually curious if it would have still opened and closed properly despite the assist hinge being installed NOT according to their specs. 

The roof opens from the front.  The initial thought was to find a device that would make it a very light operation to open and close.  As time went on and I hadn't found anything even close to the strength I needed, I've settled to try to find something that will simply make things easier for them.  I had wondered if a value of, let's say 200, would have any impact on a roof that requires 1500.  And yes, there is actually bar in place to hold the roof up.

I think as someone (my apologies as I don't remember if it was you or another) mentioned, perhaps the gas springs/struts would be a better option versus the spring hinges.  I'm going to assume that I wouldn't run into such strict installation placement guidelines and as was mentioned maybe it would require less strength since they generally get mounted more towards the center versus the hinges where they are mounted near the back.

...the problem is I have yet to find something readily available (and not hundreds of dollars) with any strength over 200 (or 300 when using a left, center and right hinge).  I'm not really looking to build a device.  Just hoping that there was something obvious that I had overlooked.  I've tried the automotive store as well home stores and even searched online for RV type devices.   

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:40 AM, Bob Davis bob@wrobertdavis.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

One other question - how will you open this, assuming you do it manually, where will the force be applied and how?  Are you depending on the assist hinges to hold it open, or just to provide an assist to get to particular point before inserting a manual brace to hold it in place? This will make a huge difference in the torque needed for the hinges.

On Oct 28, 2015, at 6:27 AM, Bob Davis bob@wrobertdavis.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

You said you need a value ranging from 1000 to 2000.  I assume that is inch pounds. If you use two assist hinges placed 4.5 inches from the center of rotation, I derive that your mini roof weighs between 100 and 200 pounds.  Is that correct?  Is your mini-roof uniform thickness?

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Re: [DIY] Washer problem

 

Unless there has been some major change, both cycles use the same water column sensor.  I serviced Whirlpool for years and this is a first.

Flat_Land Dale

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 I have an apartment building with 6 units.  We put in a coin-operated Whirlpool washer and dryer for their convenience. 
 
I got a notice last night, and confirmed it this morning that when on large, the wash cycle fills all the way up but the rinse cycle only filled half way.  I checked in a book I have on washer repair and it does mention anything like this.
 
I assume the sensor for the wash cycle is also used on the rinse.
 
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[DIY] Washer problem

 

 I have an apartment building with 6 units.  We put in a coin-operated Whirlpool washer and dryer for their convenience. 
 
I got a notice last night, and confirmed it this morning that when on large, the wash cycle fills all the way up but the rinse cycle only filled half way.  I checked in a book I have on washer repair and it does mention anything like this.
 
I assume the sensor for the wash cycle is also used on the rinse.
 
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Re: [DIY] Lift Assist Hinges

 

One other question - how will you open this, assuming you do it manually, where will the force be applied and how?  Are you depending on the assist hinges to hold it open, or just to provide an assist to get to particular point before inserting a manual brace to hold it in place? This will make a huge difference in the torque needed for the hinges.

On Oct 28, 2015, at 6:27 AM, Bob Davis bob@wrobertdavis.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

You said you need a value ranging from 1000 to 2000.  I assume that is inch pounds. If you use two assist hinges placed 4.5 inches from the center of rotation, I derive that your mini roof weighs between 100 and 200 pounds.  Is that correct?  Is your mini-roof uniform thickness?

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Re: [DIY] Lift Assist Hinges

 

Thanks for your patient and polite responses. I am trying to be helpful.  I am an engineer and we tend to be a bit dry in communications. :-)

Your most recent post clarified things for me.  Unfortunately, your research is muddied by some incorrect information posted by Rockler.   One of their pubs states inch/pounds.  Torque is measured in length*force units. In this case it should be expressed inch-pounds.  I understand where the (divide by 2) factor comes from now.  The depth of the lid/2 expresses the position of the center of gravity.

You said you need a value ranging from 1000 to 2000.  I assume that is inch pounds. If you use two assist hinges placed 4.5 inches from the center of rotation, I derive that your mini roof weighs between 100 and 200 pounds.  Is that correct?  Is your mini-roof uniform thickness?

Bob

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No worries, I wouldn't be surprised if I were using the improper terms or at least used improperly.  I've read so many things that they've all become jumbled.  Also, keep in mind that I've been looking at spring hinges, gas springs and soft close devices.  You'll see that formula (whatever it may be) for these hinges....

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Re: [DIY] Lift Assist Hinges

 

No worries, I wouldn't be surprised if I were using the improper terms or at least used improperly.  I've read so many things that they've all become jumbled.  Also, keep in mind that I've been looking at spring hinges, gas springs and soft close devices.  You'll see that formula (whatever it may be) for these hinges....

http://www.rockler.com/self-balancing-lid-support-select-lbs-weight-you-need

"Surface mounts only 4-1/2" from back of the cabinet. Statuary bronze finish. (Lid weight times front to back size) divided by 2 equals" pounds range."

http://www.rockler.com/soft-down-lid-support

"Use one support per 43 inch/lbs. Determine inch/lbs with this formula: (lid wt. X front to back size) divided by 2. "

Calculators...

http://go.rockler.com/wizard_torsion.cfm

http://www.frictionhinge.com/calc.html

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With all due respect, this just doesn't make sense.  Force and torque are not the same thing.  Pounds/sq inch has no relevance.  Can you give a link to an example for what your are describing that shows a formula?  The formula you quoted is not one I am familiar with. What is the "width" term?  Why is it divided by 2?  Can you post a sketch of picture of what you are trying to do?  I get the feeling your analysis of capacities needed is not based on a proper model of how to calculate the forces.

Bob

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Bob, I think I'm using the correct term but perhaps not.  As I've been researching these devices, I've seen a formula given with several products.  The formula is to basically determine how much force or torque your item needs in order to lift it so that you can compare it to the pound rating for the hinges.  The formula is weight (pounds) x (TIMES) width (inches) (front to back) / (DIVIDED BY) 2 . What I need is between 1000-2000.  The highest I've seen in-store is about 100 per hinge.  

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Re: [DIY] Lift Assist Hinges

 

Post a pic of what you are trying to lift so we all can see the mechanics please...

I believe I am exactly correct.....torque is the product of the
lever arm length and the force necessary to produce rotation..or in your\
case, the lift force necessary to rotate the lifted item aroujdf the hinge axis.
(these are vectors..have length, angle, etc etc)

so therefore, the further away from the rotation point (your hinges) the force is applied
the less force is needed to produce the torque necessary to rotate (lift) your item.

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Subject: Re: [DIY] Lift Assist Hinges
To: "DIY" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 5:56 PM


 









With all due respect, this just doesn't make
sense.  Force and torque are not the same thing.
 Pounds/sq inch has no relevance.  Can you give a link to
an example for what your are describing that shows a
formula?  The formula you quoted is not one I am familiar
with. What is the "width" term?  Why is it divided by
2?  Can you post a sketch of picture of what you are trying
to do?  I get the feeling your analysis of capacities
needed is not based on a proper model of how to calculate
the forces.
Bob
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subprong subprong@gmail.com
[DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com>
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Bob,
I think I'm using the correct term but perhaps not.  As
I've been researching these devices, I've seen a
formula given with several products.  The formula is to
basically determine how much force or torque your item needs
in order to lift it so that you can compare it to the pound
rating for the hinges.  The formula is weight (pounds) x
(TIMES) width (inches) (front to back) / (DIVIDED BY) 2 .
What I need is between 1000-2000.  The highest I've
seen in-store is about 100 per hinge.  










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Re: [DIY] Lift Assist Hinges

 

With all due respect, this just doesn't make sense.  Force and torque are not the same thing.  Pounds/sq inch has no relevance.  Can you give a link to an example for what your are describing that shows a formula?  The formula you quoted is not one I am familiar with. What is the "width" term?  Why is it divided by 2?  Can you post a sketch of picture of what you are trying to do?  I get the feeling your analysis of capacities needed is not based on a proper model of how to calculate the forces.

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Bob, I think I'm using the correct term but perhaps not.  As I've been researching these devices, I've seen a formula given with several products.  The formula is to basically determine how much force or torque your item needs in order to lift it so that you can compare it to the pound rating for the hinges.  The formula is weight (pounds) x (TIMES) width (inches) (front to back) / (DIVIDED BY) 2 . What I need is between 1000-2000.  The highest I've seen in-store is about 100 per hinge.  

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Re: [DIY] Door is suddenly too wide

 

Absolutely.  There is possibly a different humidity level in the garage (higher).  More moisture means swelling of the wood.  This is why, when installing wood flooring, you put it in the room it is to be installed a few days before installing it.

On 10/27/2015 5:32 PM, theoldhen@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself] wrote:

 

That 15 pane door that I stripped and stainedi is now too wide for the doorway.  We have changed out the hinges hoping that would help. The door has been out in the garage since april. Could that have caused swelling?

What are your suggestions so the door will fit? Do we shave off the edge where the hinges are? 

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That 15 pane door that I stripped and stainedi is now too wide for the doorway.  We have changed out the hinges hoping that would help. The door has been out in the garage since april. Could that have caused swelling?

What are your suggestions so the door will fit? Do we shave off the edge where the hinges are? 

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[DIY] Re: Stripping a 15 pane door

 

I couldnt locate my stripping gun so I used a spray stripper.Scraped off the paint with a paring knife and paper towels.

Sealed the wood, let it dry and stained it.

Not too happy with several very dark areas that showed up. there were also some very light areas that I reapplied more stain to.  I have not applied a polyurethan yet. Will wait until tomorrow. The door looks like an old door which is not the worst thing that could happen considering that we are changing out doors, trim and the floors so this old farmhouse will look like an old farmhouse.

I find it interesting that I have purchased 3 15 pane pine doors from Menards and all 3 of them have had weird stain problems.

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Re: [DIY] Lift Assist Hinges

 

Think lever arms!!!

google the "lever arm formula"

.the point is gas assist arms placed closer to the front require
a tremendously less force (moment of rotation/length of arm from rotation poiint)
which makes torque needed to open less as you probably know..so adding
gas assist 2/3 from hinge towards front should solve the problem if I
understand your mechanics correctly...and make it lift as light as a feather
like it does on my 200 lb truck bed cover!!
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Subject: Re: [DIY] Lift Assist Hinges
To: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 12:46 PM


 









To answer
some questions in the thread...

David, it's a mini-roof that opens
up.

Mountain Master,
there is room on the inside (and actually that's what
I'd prefer) for the assist hinges so long as they are
not massive.  I hate to narrow or constrain the field but
was hoping to find something for purchase and also
relatively priced and located.

Bob, I think I'm using the correct
term but perhaps not.  As I've been researching these
devices, I've seen a formula given with several
products.  The formula is to basically determine how much
force or torque your item needs in order to lift it so that
you can compare it to the pound rating for the hinges.  The
formula is weight (pounds) x (TIMES) width (inches) (front
to back) / (DIVIDED BY) 2 . What I need is between
1000-2000.  The highest I've seen in-store is about 100
per hinge. 

Something I've also been
wondering....  I imagine the perfect rating matchup will
perfectly assist the device up or let it down (essentially
floating up and down).  It would be fine if it simply makes
it easier to lift.  I'm wondering if a device rating of
200 will have any impact on a lid that optimally requires a
1500 or so rating. 

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at
1:17 PM, Bob Davis bob@wrobertdavis.com
[DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









pounds per square inch is an odd rating for this
application.  Are you sure it was rated in pounds per
square inch?
Bob
On Oct 27,
2015, at 12:34 AM, subprong subprong@gmail.com
[DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Any ideas
or help with this please.  I need some sort of device that
would make a heavy lid/top easier to lift.  The device
would work in conjunction with existing hinges.  I've
seen things such as assist hinges, self balancing hinges and
gas springs.  The problem is that the torque value for
these devices is well below what is needed for this
application.  The highest I've seen (at least readily
available) would be a value of about 300 pounds per square
inch (and that's using 3 hinges).  I need something
well above 1000.  

Any ideas on products and where I can
find them?  Thanks.


































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