[DIY] Electric to ceiling

 

Moved into a house last year that doesn't have lights/electric in the ceilings of a few rooms.

I'd like to hire an electrician to put electricity to the ceilings of 2 rooms so I can install ceiling fans.

Can someone give me an idea of how much I should expect to pay for this?

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[DIY] Picnic Table Question

 

Can someone please tell me what the measurement is from the top of the seat to the top of the table for picnic tables?

Also... for anyone who offered advice for the sloping ground where we are building our gazebo... thank you so very much again.
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Re: [DIY] Ceiling fan light kit

 

Being basically a tightwad,  I would just install the new sockets.  This would  Also preserve the appearance of the fan (aiming that you LIKE the appearance.  If you don't,  maybe a lighting kit would be an improvement).

Mike Taglieri 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 8:02 PM mike shoaf mike.shoaf@yahoo.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Most of the light kits I've installed will fit multiple fans, BUT that doesn't mean it will fit your older fan. If it is easy to get to, remove the old light (2 or 3 screws and 2 wires) and take it with you. At least take photos of what you have it you can't take the light with you.. The sockets can be replaced but the wiring may be bad if the sockets have gotten too warm from bad connections.

On June 16, 2020, at 7:46 PM, "Jan Flood oakridgefarm@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

We have a ceiling fan upstairs which is probably original to the house, 1994. I believe the sockets have burned out as new bulbs will no longer work. We could buy a new fan but this one is perfect for the room. I had a handyman install new sockets for another light fixture, so know it can be done but the fan, or at least the light section would have to be taken down on the fan. I've heard of light kits for ceiling fans - any idea which would be best DIY? Install a new light kit (would a new one fit this old fan?) or put in new sockets?

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[DIY] 2nd socket question, thanks

 

Sent this, but didn't see it online, want you to know I appreciate all your thoughts..

Thank you everyone, yes I can get the metal out with a pair of needle nose pliers.  I'll get a light and see if I can see what you're talking about on the socket.  I expected new sockets as he mentioned a price for each one.  Good idea to take some pictures in and ask him about the type of repair he did.

After thinking about it I'm wondering if he simply did something, so as to retain as much of the original wiring as possible.  He did that on an antique lamp I took in….said he was sure I didn't want a new cord on it.  At the time I just wanted to be able to use it, but since his speciality is antique lighting, he might do as little as possible to change the original wiring - which I guess would devalue the lights.  Not planning on selling them so hadn't thought about that.

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Re: [DIY] Ceiling fan light kit

 

I actually think I can do that. Doesn't seem to be a big selection of replacement light kits but sure I can find something that will work.  Thanks.

On Jun 16, 2020, at 7:58 PM, mike shoaf mike.shoaf@yahoo.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Yes! Most of the newer ones have a plastic plug that connects to one in the box for the light kit. If they don't match you can cut them off and splice the wires-white to white and black/blue/red to the wire in the fan using small wirenuts.

On June 16, 2020, at 8:16 PM, "Jan Flood oakridgefarm@gmail..com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Thanks Mike, the light is high but easy to access, and if just a few screws and wires, much easier than trying to take down the entire fan.  Are the kits an entire assembly and you just connect the wires and screw it on?

Thanks!!

On Jun 16, 2020, at 7:02 PM, mike shoaf mike.shoaf@yahoo.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Most of the light kits I've installed will fit multiple fans, BUT that doesn't mean it will fit your older fan. If it is easy to get to, remove the old light (2 or 3 screws and 2 wires) and take it with you. At least take photos of what you have it you can't take the light with you. The sockets can be replaced but the wiring may be bad if the sockets have gotten too warm from bad connections.

On June 16, 2020, at 7:46 PM, "Jan Flood oakridgefarm@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

We have a ceiling fan upstairs which is probably original to the house, 1994. I believe the sockets have burned out as new bulbs will no longer work. We could buy a new fan but this one is perfect for the room. I had a handyman install new sockets for another light fixture, so know it can be done but the fan, or at least the light section would have to be taken down on the fan. I've heard of light kits for ceiling fans - any idea which would be best DIY? Install a new light kit (would a new one fit this old fan?) or put in new sockets?

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Re: [DIY] 2nd Socket question

 

Thank you everyone, yes I can get the metal out with a pair of needle nose pliers.  I'll get a light and see if I can see what you're talking about on the socket.  I expected new sockets as he mentioned a price for each one.  Good idea to take some pictures in and ask him about the type of repair he did.

After thinking about it I'm wondering if he simply did something, so as to retain as much of the original wiring as possible.  He did that on an antique lamp I took in….said he was sure I didn't want a new cord on it.  At the time I just wanted to be able to use it, but since his speciality is antique lighting, he might do as little as possible to change the original wiring - which I guess would devalue the lights.  Not planning on selling them so hadn't thought about that.

On Jun 16, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Ron Johnson l0c0l0b0@hotmail.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Sounds like the bulb broke, leaving the metal threaded part in the socket.  Most likely someone tried to screw them in tight for some reason.

Turn off the power to the chandelier and, try to turn the metal in the socket using a needle nose pliers.  What I usually end up doing is grabbing the edge of the metal still in the socket and try to rotate it.  Sometimes the metal bends, but then you get a better grip with your pliers.

After the bulb is out, check the little brass tab on the bottom of the socket to be sure it's up and off of the bottom of the socket.  Sometimes they flatten out a bit and that's when someone tries to tighten a bulb. Using a small screwdriver (Actually a dental pick would be better because it has a hook) try to raise it up a bit so the bulb will make contact. 

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Subject: [DIY] 2nd Socket question

 

 

Antique hanging Sheffield chandelier with 8 hanging lights, using the chandelier type bulbs. When we had the fixture removed from upstairs and installed downstairs, 3 yrs ago, I took it to a light shop who specializes in antique fixtures, and asked them to rewire it. When we brought it home the electrician installed it and everything worked. Starting a year or so ago, when a bulb burned out, a new one wouldn't work. Now half the sockets will not work. In checking it looks like they inserted some type of "different"electrical device into the sockets rather than installing new sockets. When you unscrew some bulbs the metal part stays attached and the bulb hangs down on the wires.

Anyone had an idea what these are and how to fix it? Does that sound like what they do for antique fixtures? It's very heavy and a 12' ceiling so would have to hire someone to do it if it has to be taken down. Also question the validity of having it redone — it is valuable but don't like the prospect of having to do this every couple of years.

Thanks for any info.

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Re: [DIY] Paint: Oil or Latex?

 

To all that have replied, thank you.

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Re: [DIY] 2nd Socket question

 

Take a bar of soap or cut the end off a potato and jam it onto what's left of the bulb.

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Re: [DIY] 2nd Socket question

 

Sounds like the bulb broke, leaving the metal threaded part in the socket.  Most likely someone tried to screw them in tight for some reason.

Turn off the power to the chandelier and, try to turn the metal in the socket using a needle nose pliers.  What I usually end up doing is grabbing the edge of the metal still in the socket and try to rotate it.  Sometimes the metal bends, but then you get a better grip with your pliers.

After the bulb is out, check the little brass tab on the bottom of the socket to be sure it's up and off of the bottom of the socket.  Sometimes they flatten out a bit and that's when someone tries to tighten a bulb. Using a small screwdriver (Actually a dental pick would be better because it has a hook) try to raise it up a bit so the bulb will make contact. 

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Subject: [DIY] 2nd Socket question

 

 

Antique hanging Sheffield chandelier with 8 hanging lights, using the chandelier type bulbs. When we had the fixture removed from upstairs and installed downstairs, 3 yrs ago, I took it to a light shop who specializes in antique fixtures, and asked them to rewire it. When we brought it home the electrician installed it and everything worked. Starting a year or so ago, when a bulb burned out, a new one wouldn't work. Now half the sockets will not work. In checking it looks like they inserted some type of "different"electrical device into the sockets rather than installing new sockets. When you unscrew some bulbs the metal part stays attached and the bulb hangs down on the wires.

Anyone had an idea what these are and how to fix it? Does that sound like what they do for antique fixtures? It's very heavy and a 12' ceiling so would have to hire someone to do it if it has to be taken down. Also question the validity of having it redone — it is valuable but don't like the prospect of having to do this every couple of years.

Thanks for any info.

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Re: [DIY] Ceiling fan light kit

 

Yes! Most of the newer ones have a plastic plug that connects to one in the box for the light kit. If they don't match you can cut them off and splice the wires-white to white and black/blue/red to the wire in the fan using small wirenuts.

On June 16, 2020, at 8:16 PM, "Jan Flood oakridgefarm@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Thanks Mike, the light is high but easy to access, and if just a few screws and wires, much easier than trying to take down the entire fan.  Are the kits an entire assembly and you just connect the wires and screw it on?

Thanks!!

On Jun 16, 2020, at 7:02 PM, mike shoaf mike.shoaf@yahoo.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Most of the light kits I've installed will fit multiple fans, BUT that doesn't mean it will fit your older fan. If it is easy to get to, remove the old light (2 or 3 screws and 2 wires) and take it with you. At least take photos of what you have it you can't take the light with you. The sockets can be replaced but the wiring may be bad if the sockets have gotten too warm from bad connections.

On June 16, 2020, at 7:46 PM, "Jan Flood oakridgefarm@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

We have a ceiling fan upstairs which is probably original to the house, 1994. I believe the sockets have burned out as new bulbs will no longer work. We could buy a new fan but this one is perfect for the room. I had a handyman install new sockets for another light fixture, so know it can be done but the fan, or at least the light section would have to be taken down on the fan. I've heard of light kits for ceiling fans - any idea which would be best DIY? Install a new light kit (would a new one fit this old fan?) or put in new sockets?

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[DIY] Re: 2nd Socket question

 

(Maybe) First calmly, politely relay your story/ problems to the light shop and ASK them what they advise? Maybe the owner will step up?   If this fails, maybe gets pictures of what you are talking about... or maybe pics to teh lights shop would also help that conversation?  Luck?

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Re: [DIY] Ceiling fan light kit

 

Thanks Mike, the light is high but easy to access, and if just a few screws and wires, much easier than trying to take down the entire fan.  Are the kits an entire assembly and you just connect the wires and screw it on?

Thanks!!

On Jun 16, 2020, at 7:02 PM, mike shoaf mike.shoaf@yahoo.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Most of the light kits I've installed will fit multiple fans, BUT that doesn't mean it will fit your older fan. If it is easy to get to, remove the old light (2 or 3 screws and 2 wires) and take it with you. At least take photos of what you have it you can't take the light with you. The sockets can be replaced but the wiring may be bad if the sockets have gotten too warm from bad connections.

On June 16, 2020, at 7:46 PM, "Jan Flood oakridgefarm@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

We have a ceiling fan upstairs which is probably original to the house, 1994. I believe the sockets have burned out as new bulbs will no longer work. We could buy a new fan but this one is perfect for the room. I had a handyman install new sockets for another light fixture, so know it can be done but the fan, or at least the light section would have to be taken down on the fan. I've heard of light kits for ceiling fans - any idea which would be best DIY? Install a new light kit (would a new one fit this old fan?) or put in new sockets?

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[DIY] 2nd Socket question

 

Antique hanging Sheffield chandelier with 8 hanging lights, using the chandelier type bulbs. When we had the fixture removed from upstairs and installed downstairs, 3 yrs ago, I took it to a light shop who specializes in antique fixtures, and asked them to rewire it. When we brought it home the electrician installed it and everything worked. Starting a year or so ago, when a bulb burned out, a new one wouldn't work. Now half the sockets will not work. In checking it looks like they inserted some type of "different"electrical device into the sockets rather than installing new sockets. When you unscrew some bulbs the metal part stays attached and the bulb hangs down on the wires.

Anyone had an idea what these are and how to fix it? Does that sound like what they do for antique fixtures? It's very heavy and a 12' ceiling so would have to hire someone to do it if it has to be taken down. Also question the validity of having it redone — it is valuable but don't like the prospect of having to do this every couple of years.

Thanks for any info.

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