ray wrote:
  
  > When we built our house we installed a hot water return
  > line back to the hot water tank and added a pump with a
  > timer on it.  The return line comes from our furthest bathroom
  > (about 85' away).  When the timer turns on the pump it draws
  > the now cooled hot water from the furthest bathroom and puts
  > it back into the hot water tank and in doing that it draws the
  > > hottest water from the tank and delivers it to the back bathroom. 
  
  Hi Ray;
  
  There are ways to get faster hot water that are simpler,
  and far more energy efficient (in others words cost less to
  operate).  One is to simply have a unique water heater for
  that bathroom.      Standard water heaters do not cost as
  much as the extra insulated hot water lines, the pump, the
  timer, the electricity to run the pump, and especially the
  ongoing heat loss from 170ft of hot water lines (more
  surface area than a large water heater (more like two)
  and not nearly as well insulated) and even the hidden
  added cost to your air conditionings, by having to
  counter the heating the house by that huge surface area
  of always hot, hot water line during the cooling seasons.
  Or, if you are not running the line through the conditioned
  space of your home, then the heat loss is even greater, and
  does not help heat your home in Winter.  All together, over
  time, that comes to more than the cost of a second heater.
  
  The other simple strategy is a little harder to wrap
  your mind around, at first, but it works quite well.  It is 
  to have a tiny little pump under the furthest sink which,
  either operated by a timer, or preferably a thermostat,
  moves a little of the tepid water from that furthest point
  in the hot line, over to just before the sink's cold faucet
  in the cold water line.   Since we usually want a mix of
  hot and cold in a bathroom sink, this means that the
  cold water will actually be pleasantly warm, and much,
  if not most of the time, you don't even need to turn on
  the hot.   But, if you do, it will take a lot less of it, mixed
  with the warm instead of cold water.  And, hot water
  has also been moved up in the line, for faster hot water
  at the tub or shower, and any other fixtures along the
  way.  These little gadgets are easy to install, and are
  relatively inexpensive, compared to other hot water
  circulator strategies, or a second heater.
  
  -Laren Corie-
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