Do it Yourself: April 2016

29 April 2016

[DIY] Cutting Board Repair

One of my kids made a cutting board over 20 years ago. I have used it to chop vegies... nuts...anything that needed cutting.

I have used one side when I needed a backing when drilling items...and most recently I used it to protect my counter top when I needed to hammer something which caused the board to split in half.

I have glued the two pieces together but now have a crack along that seem that needs to be filled.

Is there a food safe item that can be used to fill in the crack?

Joyce aka Mom aka Nana

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Knew this type of product existed but hadn't seen it. Deck Correct by Cabot. Made to restore wood decks, fill in cracks up to ¼", tightens splinters etc. Also can be used on concrete. Apply with a roller, soap and water cleanup. It's a tintable base with more than enough colors to choose from. It was recommended to us - but - the reviews are all over the place. Anyone used this particular product, or a similar one from another company.

I've read about a similar product for the outside walls, that you just paint on and seals small cracks etc. Since we need to paint some places anyway, I thought this would be a good compromise.

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27 April 2016

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[DIY] Barn progress

Early rough drawing, the area to the right of the red line is where we're working. The 11x13' room, next to the original bathroom, will become our bedroom for now. Our current debate is do we want to move the wall out to enlarge this room. Waiting till the cabinets are installed since the placement of the door would be affected if they didn't exactly line up.

Fireplace & new windows framed in, room to the right will be a 12x12' office for now, 2nd bedroom later.

Kitchen area. Fridge/pantry/wall oven etc on the left wall, cooktop in the corner and long counter with sink centered under a 9x5' window. Anyone with experience installing a 90lb apron front farm sink, yell out. All advice welcome. Still not sure of ceiling treatment over the kitchen area. Didn't realize it would be so cluttered up but DH really doesn't want to do sheetrock. Any suggestions?

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26 April 2016

Re: [DIY] Painting electrical outlets?

Thanks everyone, I decided to live with white walls and brown outlets for awhile. We'll replace the noticeable ones, once the living area is finished. We're making this as safe as possible - simply because it's smart and because I don't move too fast anymore :) There is the one big space, 24x25, that I call the living area, but also another 4 rooms down there included in our "new house". The barn is 40'x60' with two floors but because it's a Kentucky Tobacco style barn it's roughly 3500'. We have 1260' of finished living area now. However, the 1440' we're finishing downstairs, will be our main living area. The remaining area will be left as is for now. Some used for our antique refinishing, etc. But in the future could be more bedrooms, family room, exercise rooms etc. It's a great place, and even with the need to change our plans, we're loving it. I know all you DIYer's could do some great things here :) I'll send a few images.

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Re: [DIY] Painting electrical outlets?

Jan...you are the one paying the bill ——— Yeah, LOL, that's the problem. I can't honestly say he made an error since I didn't specifically say make all the new ones white, so don't expect him to eat that expense, and he's too expensive to pay for his time to have them all redone.

Aki, it's the actual electrical outlet, not the switch plate. I've seen them painted in old houses where people didn't remove them first and always thought it was tacky but I'd do a better job, LOL. This is a wooden structure, lots and lots of wood. We're paying a small fortune to have gas lines/wiring etc replaced throughout the entire place & brought up to current code (even though we don't have any restrictions in our county), so I don't want to do something foolish that might be the cause of a problem.

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Jan...you are the one paying the bill.

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Re: [DIY] Painting electrical outlets?

Im not sure this is a major issue. What about choosing an off-white to paint the walls, and using the brown outlets as a contrast. Who says it has to be white on white?

We have a world of colors to choose from with painting. Find a complementary color to brown and make it serve as a tasteful contrast...

Frank

On Apr 26, 2016, at 10:08 AM, "Mike Shoaf mike.shoaf@yahoo.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

They aren't that cheap anymore if put in to code. NEC now requires tamper proof outlets, AFCI protection in living areas, etc. Not sure how much the code is enforced in your area, but these extra protective device cost more initially but might save someone's butt in the right situation. Please do not paint them!

On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:51 AM, "Aki 01dyna@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

hmm..definitely don't paint over outlets. They won't last long anyway. I agree, if it's the outlets and not just the outlet covers, it's a little more effort (and cost) but certainly not
a hard thing to do.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jerry Hnidy jhnidy@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I don't think that the op meant covers. But IIRC outlets are only one dollar at menards.
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On Apr 26, 2016 9:00 AM, "Aki 01dyna@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I've never seen painted outlet covers that looked any good unless you spray paint them or wall paper them (either one can be tedious). Spray painting them will look good but
can chip or peel later on.

Really, they're really cheap to replace. Certainly not worth the time/labor costs to have a Master Electrician do it at their labor rates. A 10 pack from Home Depot is a $1.98. Removing and installing new covers is, literally, one screw and a two minute effort.

-aki

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 8:06 AM, 'oakridgefarm@gmail.com' oakridgefarm@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thanks Mike, I'm pretty sure he's through installing the outlets. Not sure offhand how many he just put in but there are a lot of outlets down there. His fee is one of the highest of all the contractors who are working here, due to the labor involved. They have to figure out how to get the lines to the new appliances, lights and outlets where there has never been any - as well as rewiring and installing a new box. I know the outlets in the ceiling haven't been touched, and he may not even be using them…..but they had such a rough day yesterday I'm not sure I have the courage to mention it. It isn't really anyones fault, the old ones were already brown, I didn't explicitly state I wanted them white and when he was explaining why he had to install a few where he did last night I didn't even notice they were brown. Not even the framer we had to call in to help noticed they were brown and he knows we're painting all the shiplap etc white. I know the outlets themselves aren't too expensive but the labor is. They are both master electricians, no gophers on the job.

Jan Flood
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On Apr 26, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Mike Shoaf mike.shoaf@yahoo.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

ask the electrician how much it would cost to do the remaining ones in the color you pick and how much to change the ones already installed. generally they all cost the same to buy. you can change the installed ones later yourself if you are careful. the very last resort would be to paint them!

On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 6:59 AM, "'oakridgefarm@gmail.com' oakridgefarm@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

All the outlets here were brown - and at 3am this morning, I realized all the new ones the electrician is putting in are brown — but the walls will all be white. There are way too many to have him replace them, what is the danger of using a good paint and carefully painting them. They asked if we were going to sheetrock over the tongue and groove walls that are already in, and I said no, would just be painting them white. But none of us picked up on the fact he was installing brown outlets. I'm afraid to even mention it to him. We can change them out over time but not all at once.

Jan Flood
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Re: [DIY] Painting electrical outlets?

They aren't that cheap anymore if put in to code. NEC now requires tamper proof outlets, AFCI protection in living areas, etc. Not sure how much the code is enforced in your area, but these extra protective device cost more initially but might save someone's butt in the right situation. Please do not paint them!

On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:51 AM, "Aki 01dyna@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

hmm..definitely don't paint over outlets. They won't last long anyway. I agree, if it's the outlets and not just the outlet covers, it's a little more effort (and cost) but certainly not

a hard thing to do.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Jerry Hnidy jhnidy@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I don't think that the op meant covers. But IIRC outlets are only one dollar at menards.

J Hnidy
Samsung Phone

On Apr 26, 2016 9:00 AM, "Aki 01dyna@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I've never seen painted outlet covers that looked any good unless you spray paint them or wall paper them (either one can be tedious). Spray painting them will look good but
can chip or peel later on.

Really, they're really cheap to replace. Certainly not worth the time/labor costs to have a Master Electrician do it at their labor rates. A 10 pack from Home Depot is a $1.98. Removing and installing new covers is, literally, one screw and a two minute effort.

-aki

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 8:06 AM, 'oakridgefarm@gmail.com' oakridgefarm@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thanks Mike, I'm pretty sure he's through installing the outlets. Not sure offhand how many he just put in but there are a lot of outlets down there. His fee is one of the highest of all the contractors who are working here, due to the labor involved. They have to figure out how to get the lines to the new appliances, lights and outlets where there has never been any - as well as rewiring and installing a new box. I know the outlets in the ceiling haven't been touched, and he may not even be using them…..but they had such a rough day yesterday I'm not sure I have the courage to mention it. It isn't really anyones fault, the old ones were already brown, I didn't explicitly state I wanted them white and when he was explaining why he had to install a few where he did last night I didn't even notice they were brown. Not even the framer we had to call in to help noticed they were brown and he knows we're painting all the shiplap etc white. I know the outlets themselves aren't too expensive but the labor is. They are both master electricians, no gophers on the job.

Jan Flood
oakridgefarm@gmail.com

On Apr 26, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Mike Shoaf mike.shoaf@yahoo.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

ask the electrician how much it would cost to do the remaining ones in the color you pick and how much to change the ones already installed. generally they all cost the same to buy. you can change the installed ones later yourself if you are careful. the very last resort would be to paint them!

On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 6:59 AM, "'oakridgefarm@gmail.com' oakridgefarm@gmail.com [DoIt_Yourself]" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

All the outlets here were brown - and at 3am this morning, I realized all the new ones the electrician is putting in are brown — but the walls will all be white. There are way too many to have him replace them, what is the danger of using a good paint and carefully painting them. They asked if we were going to sheetrock over the tongue and groove walls that are already in, and I said no, would just be painting them white. But none of us picked up on the fact he was installing brown outlets. I'm afraid to even mention it to him. We can change them out over time but not all at once.

Jan Flood
oakridgefarm@gmail.com