So right your are. I purchased this house so it was totally finished by previou[s] owners when I moved in. Who knows what ills might be lurking behind the walls. Some do it yourselfers don't really care about any codes or infractions. That's a chance you take with a used house and many times a new house. Problem solved as I pulled a new feed. Thanks to all that gave tips and idea's, much appreicated.
G
--- In DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Gmail" <jhnidy@...> wrote:
>
> Supposed to be is the key word.
>
> Google Jer
> Woodhaven, Mi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Bill Chmelik
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:37 PM
> To: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [DIY] Odd electrical problem
>
> There should not be any boxes buried in the walls, all junction boxes are
> supposed to be accessible
> ck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of multiuseguy
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:38 AM
> To: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DIY] Odd electrical problem
>
> A fresh day starting here and I will retrace my steps and again try and
> locate any other boxes that might be in the line. I see if I have to run a
> new line that I will have to drill through a concrete wall and fish it
> somehow. The whole area is finished.
>
>
> One idea I have is to turn off all the breakers except the one in question
> and use a stud finder with electrical sensing to trace the path of the
> circuit. That might help me locate a box that is in another room that I
> might have missed on the same circuit and I could inspect that. If none are
> located then something is buried in the wall somewhere and it's time to pull
> new wire.
>
> Thanks for the comments and idea's. Time to get with it.
>
> G
>
> --- In DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com, Ron Johnson <l0c0l0b0@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It sounds almost like you have a loose wire nut in a J-Box that's inclosed
> in the wall. I've come across that several times. If the outlet
> connections are good and the breaker side is good, try shutting off the
> circuit breaker and check to see what else is on it. Hopefully, there might
> be an outlet in an adjascent room that you didn't know was connected to it.
> Or a light.
> >
> > If you can't find it you may consider abandoning it in place and removing
> the connection to the circuit breaker instead of opening up walls. You can
> use wire molding to run off another outlet if the circuit load is light
> enough.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
> > From: multiuseguy@
> > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:16:33 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [DIY] Odd electrical problem
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Did that in fact put a 20A recep as the original was a 15A which came with
> the house. Also resnugged neutral wire and then tried the hot [black] on 3
> different working circuits [breakers].
> >
> > The more I think about it the more I feel the wire is compromised in a
> place I can't detect. Perhaps one wire is compromised enough to let a small
> amount of voltage to pass from the continuity tester but when 120 volts
> attempts it the heat causes the end of the wire to pull apart. But I don't
> even get a flicker on the test lamp.
> >
> > No fire yet but maybe just better to run new and not chance a burn down of
> a perfectly good house.
> >
> > G
> >
> > --- In DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com, Mike Shoaf <mike.shoaf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > replace the receptacle first, it is cheap! it may be broken inside where
> the prongs go into it, caused by the heat from the stove and moisture of the
> kitchen.
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: multiuseguy <multiuseguy@>
> > > To: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [DIY] Odd electrical problem
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > I wonder what properties of electricity would keep it from burning up a
> few strands of wire when the element tried to pull it's rated current. Yet
> I've heard houses burn down when someone wires #14 romex to a 20A breaker.
> > >
> > > The only place I can see connections is at the outlet I removed that the
> stove was plugged into and at the breaker box. I physically removed the wire
> from each device. I could not locate any other outlet serviced by that drop.
> Now that does not mean someone did not bury a box in the finished area
> somewhere. I think maybe pulling a new feed will be the best thing to do. It
> will be tedious as everything is a finished space. Thanks for your insight.
> Much appreicated.
> > > G
> > >
> > > --- In DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com, S_Wilson <virtualwilz@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just had that same type of thing happen at work this week. A
> > > > heating element quit working. Continuity across it appeared
> > > > correct but it didn't heat up. Turns out what it was, was a broken
> > > > wire, it was stranded and was only hanging by a few strands. When
> > > > I turned power off and started jiggling wires the wire broke away by
> the element connection.
> > > > So I would say look for a poor connection. Might be the outlet,
> > > > might be the breaker, might be a wire, could be a wire nut.
> > > > Outlets are notorious for burning up. Look for carbonizing on it, that
> is a clue.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > On 1/26/2012 4:28 PM, multiuseguy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Electrical socket that has worked for the better of 7 years
> > > > > mysteriously quits working. 20A duplex socket used for gas
> > > > > convection oven and also to power incand. over the sink light.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basement is finished but from what I can determine wire goes
> > > > > right back to breaker box from duplex outlet. I can measure 120
> > > > > VAC at outlet but shop light will not work when plugged in.
> > > > >
> > > > > I unhooked the wires in the breaker box and also at the duplex
> > > > > outlet and checked for a complete circuit with positive results.
> > > > > I can not find a short to ground when testing the wires.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone have an idea of what is happening?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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