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12 July 2017

Re: [DIY] replacing a gfi socket in bathroom

 


Yes...Occam's Razor...go with the simplest....ask the landlord if his
civil and criminal liability and fire insurance are paid up!! LOL.....

Respectfully,

RJC

PS--

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
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On Tue, 7/11/17, Ron Johnson l0c0l0b0@hotmail.com [DoIt_Yourself] <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [DIY] replacing a gfi socket in bathroom
To: "DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com" <DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2017, 7:08 PM


 













If he is on a month-to-month (in otherwise his original
lease ran out) he could get evicted with a 30-day notice
without cause.  So be careful.  



I like the idea of telling the landlord it's a fire
hazard.  As a landlord, myself, whenever anyone mentions
electrical, I assume it could be a fire hazard - better to
be safe than sorry.  After all, eve a little problem can
grow into major problems depending
on the tenants, their friends, or children.






From:
DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
<DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of
2scott@bellsouth.net [DoIt_Yourself]
<DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:08 PM

To: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [DIY] replacing a gfi socket in
bathroom
 

 



Of course there are many other aspects of the situation
that I am not aware
but you should know that a landlord is legally
responsible to provide a certain
amount of safety and functionality.   So be sure that
you have provided 
descriptions of the faults or failures in writing for
legal purposes.
Do it twice and mention in the 2nd  notice to the
landlord that you
will wait  X days ( you decide how long...  Depending
on your loss
of functionality or physical risk it could be just 24
hours or up to a week.



Then you can hire your own electrician (at a reasonable
cost )   and you can
show how reasonable by getting quotes from more than
one electrician
to do the work and in the next months rent payment,
 you submit a letter
explaining why you have deducted the cost of repairs
from the monthly
rent.    You could even throw in some fee for your
trouble and difficulty
in hiring the electrician.   Yes it can get
complicated as the landlord
could be within his rights to evict you or raise your
rent for other reasons.



BUT  a judge would side with you the tenant regarding
the deduction
of fees from the rent.     You could fight an
eventual eviction action
and maybe win but you have to decide if you want to
create the
"bad blood" between you and the landlord.  
 Now if  personal safety
in involved..... just do it and worry about the other
stuff later.



Suggested talking points..  you could mention to
landlord in writing
that you fear for your safety and that you are
considering having
a municipal inspector examine the electrical situation
as you dont
want anyone to die of electrocution.  


















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