Do it Yourself: RE: [DIY] Re: Fracking and now that you mention it.

22 January 2013

RE: [DIY] Re: Fracking and now that you mention it.

I have a Dremel Multitool and although it's not something I use very often, when I do, there's no replacement for what it does. And at less than $40 (my Dremel cost almost $100

when I bought it), it's definitely something to keep in your toolkit.

From: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sherwood
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 2:06 PM
To: doit_yourself@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DIY] Re: Fracking and now that you mention it.

Concerning the question about the oscillating multi-tools. My son bought me one as a birthday present from HARBOR Freight.
The price goes from $15.99 to $19.99, depending on sale dates), cannot be beat and it is very useful. Makes many jobs easier. I have used both Rigid and Bosch replacement blades for the one for Harbor Freight, again depending what is on sale at the moment.
I would seriously look at this one rather than the $40 unit from B&D . You can get two for the price of one B&D. I have not had good luck with many B&D power tools and the main reason why the HF one seems so attractive.
Bob Sherwood

To: doit_yourself@yahoogroups.com
From: wolfdarrell@hotmail.com
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:49:02 -0600
Subject: RE: [DIY] Re: Fracking and now that you mention it.

in another life i worked in the oilfields, and believe me, there are many of those "plugged wells" that can now leak what ever. and the bad part is that they are/were shallow
wells and will be a hazzard for many years to come. of course, some of them are being resurrected as better methods of oil extraction are found and utilized.

on a subject more to the groups reason, has anyone used or have one of the oscillating multi-tools and whats your opinion of it. worth the cost or a seldom used tool that can be done without. B&D as one for about $40 that seems durable and accessories are reasonable.

dw

To: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
From: dalu@hbcomm.net
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:04:41 -0600
Subject: [DIY] Re: Fracking and now that you mention it.

South Eastern Kansas and North Eastern Oklahoma is all shallow production, some 200 foot or less and many of these wells were literally plugged using a cedar post and then dumping a sack or two of concrete down the hole and problems do ensue as a result. I din a little observational work on the lease north of Nowata , OK where Philips of Philips 66 fame hit his discovery well. It was a very interesting piece of real-estate but you sure had to watch your step because there were some vary large holes a person could completely disappear into. It is an interesting story but I believe it has now been cleaned up and they were talking about making a small field museum on the sight but I have no idea what has been done as that was 35 or so years ago.

Dale in the Flatlands.

darrell wolf wrote:

you forgot the "capped" shallow wells that were never capped properly and now if they are in low areas they flood and spread plenty of contaminates.
south central kansas is full of them.

i was raised the same way in sck and it was just fine, except we were better off, we did have electricity. and you forgot the lack of indoor plumbing.
of course everyone lacked the same, so we didn't realize it wasn't the norm. and outhouses were what made halloween worthwhile. and something to do the next day.

dw

To: DoIt_Yourself@yahoogroups.com
From: dalu@hbcomm.net
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:24:56 -0600
Subject: Re: [DIY] Re: Fracking and now that you mention it.

Oh yes they would, and I can show you plenty of areas that were contaminated during the petroleum production days of the 20's and 30's. However none of these were contaminated due to fracking but rather from poor or lack of cement jobs and/or holes in the pipe that allowed connate formation waters to rise and migrate into fresh water sands. The problem comes down to the point of, how much risk are you willing to accept in order to maintain a standard of living? I have no problem with controls and accountability, but fear mongering is a totally different condition, especially when it is fueled from a position of either ignorance or some alternative agenda. I personally can live under conditions without electricity because I was raised during a time when we heated with wood, and home lighting was a kerosene lamp, our refrigerator was a bucket that hung in the well, but I seriously doubt the major portion of the nation would survive under these conditions.
Dale in the Flatlands.
jmr1290 wrote:
spoken like a true petroleum-industry shill...

Because of course the oil companies just wouldn't do anything that was going to poison our water!! .........